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« on: 28 September, 2010, 12:47:29 AM » |
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Well, I finally got round to watching a few Steptoe episodes and I absolutely loved it. I thought Wilfred Brambell was excellent too, but Harry Corbett is just brilliant as Harold. It was a delight to see Patricia Routledge too in one of the episodes playing a medium. I can see this will be the next sitcom I collect on dvd :-)
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« Reply #1 on: 28 September, 2010, 02:03:03 AM » |
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Well done... being particular, I must point out it's WilfrId, with 2 i's, not an e. That's just me being pedantic and irritatingly precise. Lol.
I'm not surprised you liked it, as you can tell I think it's wonderful. What episodes did you like / watch? Were these on television? Strangely, none of the many foreign Steptoe remakes have ever been shown on british television, not even the film version of the Dutch one.
The one you mentioned with Pat Routledge was the last regular episode they made. Other than an extended christmas special and a few guest sketches and commercials, they never made any more!
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« Reply #2 on: 28 September, 2010, 04:38:45 AM » |
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Whats the US version like? (Stamford and Son?) I hear that their version was rather popular over there.
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« Reply #3 on: 28 September, 2010, 07:56:33 AM » |
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I haven't heard of the US version - I hope it was better than their version of Dad's Army  Thanks re the spelling of Wilfrid. I watched a "best of" video. I don't have it here so I don't have the episode names, but the first one I watched was about Albert being in bed with a bad back and Harold having to run around after him. That one didn't really grab me so much, but then I watched the episode about the seance and was hooked. Interesting that it was the last regular episode. I also watched another one about a "what the butler saw" machine (first time I had heard that expression  I really enjoyed this one too. I also saw most of an episode about Harold buying a new waterbed.
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« Reply #4 on: 28 September, 2010, 07:48:08 PM » |
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In the early 80's i lived in California for a while (9 months),during this time i watched quite a few episodes of "Sanford & son",it was ok,the format was basically the same but the father & son had a scatty aunt who visited regularly and used to give them grief and the odd "clout round the earole" with her handbag,Red Foxx had the "Albert" role,for the life of me i can't remember the actor who played the son.Of course it was no where near as good as our brilliant "Steptoe & son"
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« Reply #5 on: 28 September, 2010, 09:08:24 PM » |
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Rogue - the American version was 'Sanford and Son'. In 1966 they made a pilot for an american version called 'Steptoe and Son' which starred Richard Prior, but it never made it to a series and has never been broadcast. Sanford and Son doesn't appeal to me, but I guess that's cultural differences - being America the poor had to be black, of course and the first 16 were adapted from the British scripts, the rest by the American writers. It led to 4 different spin offs!!
Molly - most of what you saw were all from the eighth and final series. I will be interested to here what you will think of the earlier ones - by the eight series Steptoe was, like any other comedy, mostly playin for laughs. But what made the show so different was the fact that the earlier episodes wer ein fact more comedy drama. In fact, the first ever episode Harry H Corbett thought the script was a drama when he first read it.
By the last series they were, in essence, 'going through the motions'. A lot of the pathos and drama had been lost. I recommend you find some of the earlier ones as they can be a different experience.
There are a lot of them on youtube if you want to save your cash!
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« Reply #6 on: 29 September, 2010, 01:46:16 AM » |
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Rogue - the American version was 'Sanford and Son'.
LOL! I wasn't far off 
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« Reply #7 on: 01 October, 2010, 07:19:23 AM » |
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Thanks philglass, I'll watch some of the earlier episodes. I got hold of another "best of" dvd, and I think this one seems to be mostly later episodes too. I must also check out your website.
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« Reply #8 on: 01 October, 2010, 04:31:10 PM » |
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Thanks philglass, I'll watch some of the earlier episodes. I got hold of another "best of" dvd, and I think this one seems to be mostly later episodes too. I must also check out your website.
One episode I recommend which I feel sums it up perfectly is an episode called "Steptoe and Son - And Son", this is a remarkably funny episode but with a serious twist at the end - unfortunately only existing in black and white when it was made in colour. Series 5 episode 5. Another which sums it up nicely is "The Bird", the first regular episode. This will give you a different take on the characters to what you have seen - you may not like these episodes, I just thought I'd recommend them as they sum up what I think the essence of the program is.
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« Reply #9 on: 05 October, 2010, 08:00:36 AM » |
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Hi philglass, thanks for that. I did manage to see one earlier episode "The Bath." I enjoyed it a lot and it was great to see Yootha Joyce. I'll check out the other two you mention.
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« Reply #10 on: 16 October, 2010, 10:48:13 AM » |
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I got the third series of Steptoe and Son, and yes I see what you mean Phil - it is quite different to the later episodes. I watched an episode last night (sorry I'm terrible at remembering the names of each episode) where Harold is planning to put his father in a home and sail around the world. It was funny, but also very sad at the same time. I think there is more pathos in the earlier episodes. Perhaps as Harold got older, he became more resigned to the fact he would not escape life in Shepherd's Bush or his father? His frustration seems more "raw" in the earlier episodes, for the want of a better expression.
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« Reply #11 on: 17 October, 2010, 01:07:45 PM » |
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Part of it I think came because by the later episodes they were more 'going through the motions', especially Harry. Personally it is those darker episodes I prefer -that was the point of it really.
I'm glad you like them. Although some episodes are better than others, there is not one which I would call a 'bad' episode.
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« Reply #12 on: 18 October, 2010, 07:09:58 AM » |
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"Homes fit for heroes" is the episode where Harold wants his dad to go in a home Molly........ 
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« Reply #13 on: 25 October, 2010, 09:48:39 AM » |
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Hi Phil, yes the older episodes do have a certain edge to them that is missing from the more recent ones. They are more powerful I think too. Thanks Karl - that's the episode name I was trying to think of 
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« Reply #14 on: 25 October, 2010, 08:44:15 PM » |
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No problem Molly glad to help,i'm suprised Phil didn't tell you the title before me he's the Steptoe Expert on here,i'm just a fan...... 
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