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« on: 20 September, 2010, 09:41:25 PM »

The Good Life is a comedy i love,i was well chuffed when series 4 came through the door today,i've seen every episode many times of course but,its nice to have 'em all on dvd.I'm sure everyone knows a Margo Leadbetter! Grin
its one of the few shows that had a decent xmas special too......
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« Reply #1 on: 21 September, 2010, 06:33:43 PM »

In the USA this was called 'Good Neighbors' (note the US spelling of Neighbours). 

I like the way it developed, the friendship between the two households.  Of course, Margo Leadbetter was simply a pre-curosr to Hyacinth Bucket. Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: 22 September, 2010, 08:44:38 PM »

Its on Gold at the moment, but i agree, its always nice to own the DVDs too.
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« Reply #3 on: 24 September, 2010, 07:06:48 AM »

Its difficult to watch classic comedy on Gold,the adverts ruin enjoyment.The likes of Steptoe & Son,the Good life,Open all hours etc. were not made with breaks in and Gold's editing is poor to say the least!    Angry Angry
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« Reply #4 on: 24 September, 2010, 08:05:17 AM »

Yeah, isn't that just amazing? Even when shows are thought from the beginning with ad-breaks, like most American ones, European commercial channels manage to make a mess of them...

I was watching an old episode of "The Dukes of Hazzard" yesterday on Fox Retro, and they couldn't have made a better (or worse) job of it if they meant to, which I doubt... every single "fade to black and resume from the last line of dialogue" was missed, with the actual ad-breaks plumb in the middle of the action... don't they watch the bloody stuff themselves, the editors? Probably not, they just have time tables and apply them blindly, a cut every 5-7 minutes or so, never mind where it lands... it's all just "fillers" inbetween the ads, for them...

And it's just "our" fault, really, because we tend to have slightly less ad-breaks than the Americans around Europe, on the average... Wink

Still, there's only one remedy known to man to ease the pain of watching commercial TV, and that, as Peter Cook would have put it, is the rule of the three Rs... Recording, Recording and  Recording... then you can press the magic Fast Forward button and the annoyance becomes a matter of seconds, rather than several minutes, and you're spared the inane barrage of deodorants, biscuits, cars, washing powders and bloody cellphone services, the worst of the lot, for some reason... Grin
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« Reply #5 on: 24 September, 2010, 12:35:29 PM »

By a coincidence, i was talking about this in the pub last night, the poor editing and length of advertising breaks on the cable channels now. They really do mangle up the programmes trying to fit in longer and longer breaks into 30 minute shows.
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« Reply #6 on: 28 September, 2010, 01:58:29 AM »

The american 30 minute shows have 2 ad breaks!!  What happens usually is this...  The previous show ends, then you get about a minut eor so of the next show.  Then an ad break.  Then the titles and the main part of the show, then another ad break, then the last few minutes of that show, and the first few minutes of the next one... and so on...

Which is why so many have a scene before the titles.  But they are written that way, so it works. 

Believe it or not the law allows no more than 3 minutes on any 30 minute slot in the UK, but I don't think there's ever been less than 3 minutes!!
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« Reply #7 on: 28 September, 2010, 04:36:36 AM »

Believe it or not the law allows no more than 3 minutes on any 30 minute slot in the UK, but I don't think there's ever been less than 3 minutes!!

LOL! I was gonna say ...
I know the Beeb gets stick from people who think the licence fee is a con but i gladly pay it just to have a channel without adverts!
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« Reply #8 on: 28 September, 2010, 09:14:20 PM »

Believe it or not the law allows no more than 3 minutes on any 30 minute slot in the UK, but I don't think there's ever been less than 3 minutes!!

LOL! I was gonna say ...
I know the Beeb gets stick from people who think the licence fee is a con but i gladly pay it just to have a channel without adverts!

I'm the other way around - I would rather the BBC has adverts and stops ripping us off-  Don't forget, then the programs will be written for ad breaks, so it would work.  Either that or go subscription and people who want to pay it can, but I object to it as I hardly ever watch the BBC anymore and don't see why I should have to pay for programs I don't even like - at least on commercial telly it's free. 

The BBC is a profit making company (those DVD's in HMV aren't free, are they?  Since it costs about 50 pence to produce one, they broke the 'not for profit' charter years ago!).  and are entitled to be, but if another company came along and said 'you can only have what you are entitled to for free if you pay us first' that would be called  aprotection racket.

If the BBC think they are producing QUALITY, they would happily go subscription because they would know everyone would be happy to pay the £140 as they produce quality.  If they would refuse to, it's because people wouldn't pay it.  Why??  Because it's not value for money!!

Rant over... lol sorry to go off topic!!
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« Reply #9 on: 29 September, 2010, 09:45:30 AM »

Off-topic is so often the very life of discussion boards… Smiley

Once upon a time, in a little country strangely shaped as a high-heeled boot, there was ONE TV channel, managed by a benevolent government (I'm going to use some irony here and there in this piece, mind… Wink)

Both TV and mass-advertising were in their infancy, then, in this neck of the woods, and folks in charge had the brilliant idea to put them together, creating a TV programme titled "Carosello", which is still remembered with great fondness by those who lived through those days, and is still probably, in comparison, the most successful programme ever in the history of TV in this country.

What it was, mostly, very short comedy sketches, played by the best actors and comedians in the country, sometimes cartoons for the kids, at the end of which a product was briefly shown, more often than not with no connection whatsoever to the sketch itself, and the whole show, 10 minutes, was perfectly wedged in a prominent slot between the evening news and the "prime time" show, when whole families would be gathered around the dinner table.

As I said, it was a roaring success, the "last frontier" of the day for kids, where the expression "in bed after Carosello" became the leitmotif of the age, and getting in a good mood for the adults, preparing for the rest of the evening, which would probably have been quite boring… I don't really know, I was among the ones who had to go to bed… Smiley

Ah, just a piece of trivia, Richard Lester was the director of some of those sketches...

Well, the downside of this system became soon apparent, everybody knew the sketches and the characters, very few remembered the products…

"Carosello" was soon to be joined, in the '70s, by more "modern", product-based ads, still in their specific slots inbetween programmes, the law still forbid interruptions, but then it became evident that people wouldn't watch those at all, they weren't funny, they were in fact downright stupid… and soon the first commercial channels started popping up, along with the "national" ones, which had become 3 in the meantime, and the time for ad-breaks had finally matured, unfortunately, and we're now force-fed ads we don't want to watch at all times, which are useless, because there's so many we still don't remember the bloody products anyway, and my wondering is, why on earth aren't we out in the streets with torches and pitchforks marching towards the castles of the vampires?

The grass is greener and all that, but when I hear complaints about the BBC asking for a quite decent fee in order to maintain a teensy-weensy bit of commercial independence, I cringe…

Let me tell you just this, football fans will understand, only weeks ago, during the live broadcast of an Italian National Team match, the national channel RAI 1, the local equivalent of BBC 1, managed to miss a goal because they were running an ad… can you just imagine that happening with England? Ad-breaks in the middle of football matches? The government would be overthrown, probably… not a big deal here, just the sports papers complained a little, and this is a country where football is a damn religion, that's how numb we've become…

And, mind you, we DO pay a fee, too, ON TOP of the ad-breaks… PLUS, as the only alternative, a premium for satellite, where ad-breaks are ripe as well, and how unfair is that, at some 50 quid per MONTH?

But that's just what comes out of a country where TV is dominated by two main competitors answering the names of Silvio Berlusconi and Rupert Murdoch… 'nuff said…

Just remember, Auntie Beeb is a rare treasure these days, it might have its faults, yes, the good and bad of government-run TV are both present there, but it's still a matter of envy for a lot of us furriners… Wink
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« Reply #10 on: 29 September, 2010, 12:42:15 PM »

Gomez... we DO have football matches on the commercial channels - they simply put an ad break just before the first half starts, then one at half time, then anothe rafter the second half...  So the BBC would do it like that, they wouldn't just cut in during the match!!  Most of our amtches are on ITV and that has never happened.

Satellite is of course optional, so paying for it is fine to me.  You don;'t have to have it (well you don't NEED any television) so if you chose to have it that's fine.  You are not FORCED to pay it.  With the BBC we do not have a choice.  if you never watch it, you HAVE to pay for it, that's the point I am making!!

The BBC is NOT government run, that is a common misconception.  It is Government funded (sorry, poor hard working tax payer funded) but the government have no control over it.  However, CHANNEL 4 is Governemtn OWNED, the governemtn own 30% of Channel 4, although they don;t control it, which is wierd as it is Channel 4 that is the first to put two fingers up to the Government (sorry, I shouldn't call it a Governemnt, we don't have a real one at the moment.)
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« Reply #11 on: 29 September, 2010, 01:31:47 PM »

Let me tell you just this, football fans will understand, only weeks ago, during the live broadcast of an Italian National Team match, the national channel RAI 1, the local equivalent of BBC 1, managed to miss a goal because they were running an ad… can you just imagine that happening with England? Ad-breaks in the middle of football matches? The government would be overthrown, probably… not a big deal here, just the sports papers complained a little, and this is a country where football is a damn religion, that's how numb we've become…


Gomez... we DO have football matches on the commercial channels - they simply put an ad break just before the first half starts, then one at half time, then anothe rafter the second half...  So the BBC would do it like that, they wouldn't just cut in during the match!!  Most of our amtches are on ITV and that has never happened.

It did happen, admittedly by mistake, ITV HD went to a commerical break 5 minutes into the first England World Cup match this year and missed the first goal.
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« Reply #12 on: 29 September, 2010, 02:45:20 PM »

Well, what a surprise, it was ITV, not the Beeb... and yes, of course, it happened by mistake, no-one WANTS to make such a poor show of themselves, but they did, because the bloody ads are what makes their world go round, what matters to them, programmes are indeed just fillers inbetween the ads, that's the attitude, what more proof do you need?

The difference is indeed where the Italian RAI is supposed to be like the BBC, not ITV, never mind if government-run or simply funded, it's difficult for us to tell the difference in a country that's Berlusconi-run on the whole, borderlines become rather muddled...

Still, about governments, you're beginning to see what us "southerners" have been used to for ages, and Australians are dawning to as well, these days, complete and utter mistrust of estabilished political parties, finally, and subsequent complete and utter confusion... gone are the "simple" ideals of yore, the "left" and "right" sides of the world, now's the time for monetary interests to take over everything, and the only question remained is, which side is best for MY immediate interests? And how long will it last, so I can change sides in time, when it comes to it?

Ah, well, talk about off-topic... and me with THREE new shows to watch from yesterday, the current Ideal episode, the new series of "Harry & Paul" (Enfield and Whitehouse) just starting, and the new sitcom "Whites", starring Alan Davies...

Now, just to move to "lighter" subjects, off-topic as we are already, I can't help marvelling at how such a nice lad, a mainstay of the Q.I. crew, could be such a dreadful actor... Wink
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« Reply #13 on: 29 September, 2010, 06:41:31 PM »

I don't have HD so I was watching the normal broadcast match... (HD is the biggest con in the world, but that's a different debate...)

I watched both 'Harry and Paul# and 'Whites'.

I thought Harry and Paul was far better than the last series, which if I remember right had an annoying fake laughter track.  I can see them getting into trouble though, I'm sure some one complaind about them blacking up and calling Cameron a probable queer.

As for 'Whites', why didn't they just say:  "We've remade 'Chef' but it's so crap Lenny Henry told us to get lost so we've changed the name but everything else is exactly and we mean EXACTLY the same'...' then it would have been less of a surprise.

Yes, he is a bad actor isn't he?  I liked Jonathan Creek but he was even worse in that sometimes.
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« Reply #14 on: 30 September, 2010, 05:56:17 PM »

Finally managed to watch some of the recently stashed stuff, there was just too much football around the past couple of days... Wink

I went straight for "Whites" simply because it was something new and, not having ever seen "Chef", I can't say anything too bad about it, I did have a few giggles at least (Entrails and Tribulations was nice Cheesy), except perhaps who needs a cooking sitcom when we have Gordon Ramsay? Grin

But Alan, I'm afraid, was his usual self, and the plumper he gets the worse he acts, it seems... Wink

Can't shake this feeling, he's wandering around studios, possibly looking for the stage where they're shooting Q.I., he gets the wrong door and, being the nice bloke he is, he lends a hand doing a mystery or, indeed, cooky plot, but you can read it in his eyes, this half-desperate message... "I don't know where or who I am, nor what I'm doing... HELP!" Grin

Still, rather unfunny stand-up comedian, terrible actor, but you can't help liking him, for some reason... must be that thing they call charisma, whaddayaknow... Grin

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